Friday, May 2, 2008

A conversation with Donaciano Martinez, GLBT activist

A civil rights activist since the 1960s, Donaciano Martinez is one of Colorado's greatest natural resources. I was fortunate to have the chance recently to talk to him about his memories of Denver's first PrideFest and how the event has changed over the years.






















Drew: What do you remember about the very first PrideFest in Denver?
Donaciano: Well the first one was in 1975 and it was basically sponsored by the Imperial Court and the Gay Coalition of Denver. They were the two main organizations in Denver at that time. The Imperial Court was the one that did the bulk of the publicity. They went all over the bars and even up to Colorado Springs to spread the word. It was basically just a picnic in Cheesman Park and for those of us that had been activists since the ‘60s, who were accustomed to marching in the streets, we were very disappointed that the event was going to be just a picnic. However we felt that it was at least a start, bringing people together for a picnic even though we would have preferred to march in the streets. But that didn’t happen that first year. We set up a couple tables and had a few posters and in those days the park was always packed on the weekends. Back in the '70s before AIDS it was like wall-to-wall people and everybody came over and they thought we were going to stir up some trouble. It was a lot of the gay guys and a few lesbians, the women were very separate from the men up until the late 70s in Denver, a lot of the lesbians didn’t trust gay men or men in general and were very separatist. So it was mostly men. That’s the way it was back then but a lot of them were curious. They were just there to have fun but they were curious and slowly worked their way over to, I want to say, the north side of the park, not up by the pavilion, and we got a lot of curiosity-seekers coming over to check things out and we would talk to them and they would just panic to hear us talk about a march in the streets but actually the concept was not really new. Gay liberation groups from all over the state had already converged on Denver and had marched in protest against the war and we marched openly as a contingent and that was the first time that gays and lesbians had ever marched in the streets of Denver.

What was the mood like? Festive or political?
Well, it was a picnic and the picnic went on for three or four hours and they had beer and that kind of thing but there were no speakers and it didn’t really have a political tone to it. That didn’t come until a year later, in 1976, when we really took it to the streets. I’d say there were about a thousand people that first year. It’s hard for me estimate but that's what I would say and that was the beginning. It was probably 95 percent men marching that first year and then 1977 was a very stormy Pride event because a lot of the lesbian separatists were starting to come around and they did not like the drag queens. They felt the way that drag queens depicted women was so offensive that they basically were saying 'no drag queens allowed.' That was the firm position, they would not allow it but with the Imperial Court and others into drag they finally said 'ok, if you guys want to dress up as women you have to walk all the way from Cheesman Park in your high heels and see what it’s really like for women.' It kind of set the stage for what would eventually turn out to be a confrontation so that was kind of the tone of it. It was a real thorny issue and then the lesbian feminists wanted to call it a march and the Imperial Court and the more moderate men wanted to call it a parade and that was another bone of contention.

How would you say PrideFest has changed over the years?
Nowadays it’s more commercialized and expensive. In the early days we never charged any contingent to march, you just showed up and marched. However, as it began to grow they needed to organize it a little bit more. It’s gotten huge so now you have to have some method of organizing, you can’t just show up and march. And the prices for everything are so steep. I know the money goes to The Center and other non-profits but the prices still seem a little steep. The concept of having to pay to march in the parade is very foreign to me. As an elderly activist I feel that any march in the streets for civil rights should be free. And then when you get down to the festival the prices are very steep to buy food and alcohol but that’s the same as things like People’s Fair or Cinco de Mayo.

As a longtime GLBT activist, what message do you have for members of Colorado's GLBT community about PrideFest?
Just continue going because it’s a very important event to have in Denver and throughout the United States. I hope that maybe some time in future years it might get back to being more of a grassroots event and I wish that for Cinco de Mayo as well. I guess I just liked the events better back when they were simpler and smaller and everybody had access, financially, to get to them. I hope they get more noncommercial down the road and I think that it is possible as people begin to achieve more civil rights thanks to what our forefathers and foremothers did and went through and brought to the table. We can revisit those issues and see if it’s possible to have an event like that in the 2000s where people don’t have to pay to participate and where we can revisit the principals and ideals that people were bringing to the table in ‘76 and ‘77 and ’78.

Donaciano Martinez is the co-founder of La Gente Unida , an organization serving the needs of GLBT Latinas and Latinos in the Denver and Colorado area.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

great interview. thanks donaciano for being an activist and playing a role in the denver gay community.

MileHighGayGuy said...

I second that! Denver's lucky to have people like Donaciano as members of the community.

Anonymous said...

Donaciano is an icon in the community. We are so lucky to have him, and so lucky for all the work that he has done over so many years.

Anonymous said...

Donaciano says that he and others marched as gays and lesbians against the Vietnam War long before they started with Denver's Pride marches in the mid 1970s. With all due respect to him as our elder, it seems like he and other 1960s activists were muddying the waters by protesting against the war and other injustices instead of concentrating on the critical need for gay rights in those days. If Donaciano and others hadn't spent so much time on multiple issues that had nothing to do with being gay, maybe gay-rights victories might have come sooner.

Anonymous said...

Lets hear it for "Mr. Anonymous", now that you've bashed one of your own, take a moment, pull the soap box out of your ass. The movement in the 60's helped to teach us the ground rules for the gay movement of today. The problem with gay rights of today is too much on your plate now, instead of one victory at a time and unity. We have a strong community, a driving force, we need to hold our elected officials to their words. Our activist of the 60's never gave up any fight that came along for equal rights! At least they had the "balls" to come to action, put there lives on the line, march and be arrested for what they believed in. They left their signature on history, and did not just sign "Anonymous". When you want to play with the Seasoned Activist, and be all grown up, and proud of yourself and your thoughts, take a picture holding a sign, stating the years you fought for gay rights instead of riding on someone else's shirt tail. Post it where everyone can see it. For anyone who reads this it's a call to action, At Pride fest this year carry a sign stating how long you've been fighting for Equal Rights, and pat yourself on the back!

Anonymous said...

It is very unfortunate that some people do not see the connection between the Vietnam war, the other "multiple issues" and gay rights. As long as legislation of any government denies the rights and freedoms of any group(s) of people or goes against the will of the people, the struggle remains the same. As long as social injustice exists in any form, the struggle remains. To accept social injustice for anyone in any form is to accept if for ourselves. The idea that we are different with separate issues is the very tool (divide and conquer) used by the powers that be that put us where we are today. I applaud ALL activists who work to raise the consciousness of society as a whole.

BlogPro said...

Well said, Daniel!

Anonymous said...

Fighting for the civil rights of everyone and fighting against things that destroy those rights, including war, is all part of the GLBT fight. The fight for humanity and against intolerance takes many forms, and they are all linked. We cannot separate GLBT rights from any other human rights. If we start categorizing, we run the risk of losing rights for all. If I was more literate (and awake), I could remember the whole thing and I could quote it correctly, but I'll just paraphrase: "And then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak up for me." You go, Donaciano.

Anonymous said...

The criticism of "Anonymous" is ridiculous. We gays are not one dimensional people, and if we were, who would want that one dimension limited to sexual preference? Furthermore, expedience is not the goal of political activism, and sooner is not always better. "Don't push the river" is how the saying goes.

Lyonsferocious said...

In response to "muddying the waters" . . .Issues of war, injustice, marginalization and oppression ARE GLBTQ issues - whether they "directly" impact self identified GLBT folks or not. Disregarding other "causes" to further our own "agenda" only puts us in a position of being ally-less when our own "issues" do come up. We can't expect people to fight tooth and nail for GLBTQ rights when we are narrow minded and focus only on saving our own skin. Injustice is a tangled web; the work we put into seemingly "non-GLBT" issues has the ability to impact our access to rights and resources, whether the connection is straightforward or more "muddied", as you might say.
I appluad donaciano and all the other GLBTQ activists in Denver and elsewhere for having the audacity to work for equality and justice not only for themselves, but for the world at large.

Anonymous said...

no community can be succesful in achieving full equality while tolerating discrimination (read: injustice) against others.

shared experiences and histories exist between various communities and lgbtq communities, we should remind ourselves that NO movement has ever succeeded with out friends and allies. there is nothing to loose and everything to gain by supporting one another's movements for justice.

I love that Donaciano is being honored here. Baynard Rustin, principle organizer of the 1963 March on Washington and close adviser of Martin Luther King Jr. and largly responsible for the non violent tactics used to help win civil rights was also an openly gay LGBTQ rights activist. It's a good thing he didn't refrain from muddying any water but rather fighting for justice.